A bar tender named Charlie from New York told me over the phone around 2013, that he had suffered from Lyme disease and was getting very tired. That would have been around about 2003. After hesitating to take it, and waiting about three months, he took the few drops in the bottle. He just had to use it. He felt he had nothing to loose. He was was so desperate, as his symptoms were getting worse, and he was tired all the time. He then told me, his health rapidly improved. His Mother, who was 85 at the time, was in the hospital with a flesh eating disease, and was not expected to live, so he gave her the manna he had left. In three days she was out of the hospital. Then he said, she is now 95 and touring Europe.